Javarash... hmm, my brother once recommended this site after my next visit to Thailand. Why? I have long wanted to fly away and work from there. It's paradise there. The specifics of the work did not allow it. A note for fans of success stories - it still hasn’t flown away. 10 years design engineer. Education - microelectronics engineer, had to grow crystals for processors. No one from the institute group went into their specialty. As a result, somewhere in 2012-2013 I bought myself a lifetime membership on the site, fortunately the dollar cost differently back then + New Year’s discount. Now you can only dream about this. And perhaps this relaxed me; the first 10 levels were easy. Further it is more difficult. I emphasized heavily on 17th - multi-threading. Now at 23-24. I don’t remember exactly, for some reason it’s hard to walk again. I’m unaccustomed to the validator, I never liked it, to be honest, I hate it. At the same time, from the very beginning I often abandoned classes, switched to another resource (Hexlet, for example, communication there is a little livelier), but then returned. And so it was for a very long time, until 2016, when things in the current company became very bad. Due to the lack of projects, each employee was asked to go on vacation for 3 months - this was a wake-up call. But I was even happy. A month and a half on the site, code, sports. On the hexlet they advised me to start sending out resumes, or rather, going for interviews. I sent one and received a task for automated testing (Selenium). As it seemed at the time, he did a great job. But no. Registered on hh. I set the lowest price so as not to die of hunger - 25, just enough to enter a new area and gain a foothold. I sent a request for a couple of proposals. Invited. Probably one of the happiest moments of my life - I don’t know anything, but my name is already! A small office, part 1c, part of the javists are writing software for a complex for collecting information from sensors attached to the body. The complex was sold to fitness clubs (six pieces have already been delivered to the customer). The tasks were simple; I didn’t know SQL at the time and couldn’t handle it. But they still accepted me. Class - first job in IT! I met the team, all part-time students, the director is a guy 5 years younger than me. They are recruiting people because... Soon most of the team will disperse - one goes to the bank, the other needs to work harder on Instagram. Those. the whole backbone is falling apart - it’s bad, I wanted someone to see what and how I was doing, and so that they could correct it, guide me. Well, okay, somehow on my own. The office on the territory of a business center converted from a former factory building is probably familiar. It's cold, the heating hasn't been turned on yet. The surroundings, by God, are just like in my former dorm room - the chairs are half-broken, something is always lying under your feet. After 10 years in a normal company, the conditions look spartan. Soon they hired another guy, it turned out he was also from Javarash - how small the world is. Then I found out that they took him for 35. He sold it on the cheap. Hmm, we'll take that into account. But I’m only at the beginning, at the very bottom. On hh, so that the brain does not tolerate sentences, I put a high number, so that it completely scares off the HR people. I was too lazy to look for how to hide my resume in the search - consider it luck. Three weeks after starting my first job, I receive another letter. They are also looking for a Javaist. And the requirements include a serious technology stack. And I only have java listed in my resume. I answered them - they say, you know how to read - what do you want and what is indicated with me + what money I want. In response, we are looking for people with different backgrounds. Great. We agreed on an interview. Mmm, the business center is completely owned by the company, beautiful, well-polished, energy is the main area. Hr walked to the office. 2 hours of interview alone with the team lead. It feels like the best hours of my life - I didn’t think that I knew Java so well, even if only in theory. A couple of problems - the team lead gave me his laptop with IDEA pre-installed. Like, well, decide, I’ll sit next to you - and by the way, I was sitting next to you, looking at my screen. I did it, it gives me another task in SQL. I don't know how to decide - damn. He says - nothing, there is Internet. Try it using the Internet. And it seems to be working out. Cool! Already on the way home I received a call from the team lead - he said, I still need to do a test task. I sent all the data by email - and there is the interface and the database. The logic itself is simple. I received the assignment on Thursday and should have submitted it on Monday. I’ve been fussing for a long time, at 3 (!) nights on Monday I write to the team lead that I haven’t done it completely, there is logic, there is work with the database, I don’t know how to connect the server part and the client part. He answered almost immediately - send it. The next day, the manager called, also asked questions, asked about the money - I then honestly said that I was now receiving 25. He said that it was not serious - he threw another ten. After that, I saw no point in staying in the first company. I went to the director - I said this and that, I’ll go. Looks like he was angry, talking about the employment contract, about conscience, about the team. But according to the law, I don’t have to work 2 weeks during the probationary period. I signed the documents and quit. They promised to send the money for three weeks worked - no, it seems that it was very offensive, they squeezed ten. Happens. In a new place to this day. At first your head is spinning - a sea of code, business logic, huge requests to the database, layout, jira, git. Whatever you undertake, there are a lot of questions. Every time at work with glassy eyes - how/what/why. Deadlines, layout, evening assembly, hot fixes. All this, of course, is blurred in time - probably six months - but it feels like it all happened at once. But leaving the first company was correct - everything was very disorganized there. I remember my first lines, and the existing code in general - wow, horror. And in this company - mmm, I want to kiss every method, class, the names are like that - you don’t have to go inside to understand what will happen inside - it’s like you’re reading a book. The team is all guys with a strong background, it’s a shame myself, but it’s very interesting to work with them, they are professionals in their field (specialized education is a huge advantage, but since we are on this site, we deal with what we have. It’s too late to complain ). Testers are irreplaceable holy people, God, all my bugs are on their necks. Analysts - it’s been a long time since I talked to people as much as I did with analysts - what the button should do, what it should look like, and if you press this, and if at the same time there was something else here. Admins are still dark horses, but they are also an irreplaceable part of the team. All bugs are via Jira. Knowledge base - in wiki. The manager is the former team leader of the same team - i.e. knows how and what to pay for it. The main project is a document management system. If it itself may not be interesting, but from the point of view of implementation - mmm, there is so much, try to cover it. At the time of the device, half the team was using eclipse, the rest were using IDEA. Now all but one are on IDEA. At first I used an “alternative” license for IDEA, six months later I bought the official one - after all, the guys there are just like me, they make an excellent product and want to eat. A year and a half has passed, I’ve gotten the hang of it, but tasks are still difficult for me - but I’m already very familiar with code. This used to be a major issue, as was business logic. And then I decided to go for more interviews, prompted by a colleague who had already left for a month. Well, it never hurts to see how much they are willing to pay for me. I opened hh - at first I set it to 50, but when there were too many responses, I set it to 110k. Plus the stack has become a little wider. I have attended 10 interviews since the end of June. Received 2 offers. One is 50, the second is 110. And even 110 is not the most difficult questions and tasks (by the way, a lot of places work on the Hibirnate+Spring combination (often in Angular)). Not everything is as bad as it turned out. I am needed, I will not go hungry. We can move on. As for myself, I’m a little over 30 and, as I wrote, I have a non-core education. Therefore, I had a lot of doubts. Yes, they still exist. But something is already happening. And I’m writing this not for myself, and not for all of you, but for that insecure dude who still thinks that he won’t succeed - hey you, yes YOU, you will succeed, for sure, face a brick and work, work . We are still recruiting for our team, and colleagues often go to interview guys like this one. One girl was again from Javarash, my colleagues, knowing that I also passed it (well, how I passed it - up to level 24), treated her with great attention, and received the same task as me. But surprisingly, she did not do it, although they had a high opinion of her after the face-to-face interview. What salary should I give to a newbie? 40-60. Keep in mind that over 60 you can get a good rip off if you are still a junior and have no experience. Be prepared to know the size of an int, tree traversal, a couple of common logic problems - but I must admit, I didn’t receive any of these in my interviews. If you think that you know java core well, then don’t be fooled. There’s a lot of stuff there, I still get slapped on the fingers from my colleagues for using something extinct. Good luck to all! but also an irreplaceable part of the team. All bugs are via Jira. Knowledge base - in wiki. The manager is the former team leader of the same team - i.e. knows how and what to pay for it. The main project is a document management system. If it itself may not be interesting, but from the point of view of implementation - mmm, there is so much, try to cover it. At the time of the device, half the team was using eclipse, the rest were using IDEA. Now all but one are on IDEA. At first I used an “alternative” license for IDEA, six months later I bought the official one - after all, the guys there are just like me, they make an excellent product and want to eat. A year and a half has passed, I’ve gotten the hang of it, but tasks are still difficult for me - but I’m already very familiar with code. This used to be a major issue, as was business logic. And then I decided to go for more interviews, prompted by a colleague who had already left for a month. Well, it never hurts to see how much they are willing to pay for me. I opened hh - at first I set it to 50, but when there were too many responses, I set it to 110k. Plus the stack has become a little wider. I have attended 10 interviews since the end of June. Received 2 offers. One is 50, the second is 110. And even 110 is not the most difficult questions and tasks (by the way, a lot of places work on the Hibirnate+Spring combination (often in Angular)). Not everything is as bad as it turned out. I am needed, I will not go hungry. We can move on. As for myself, I’m a little over 30 and, as I wrote, I have a non-core education. Therefore, I had a lot of doubts. Yes, they still exist. But something is already happening. And I’m writing this not for myself, and not for all of you, but for that insecure dude who still thinks that he won’t succeed - hey you, yes YOU, you will succeed, for sure, face a brick and work, work . We are still recruiting for our team, and colleagues often go to interview guys like this one. One girl was again from Javarash, my colleagues knew that I also passed it (well, I passed it - up to level 24), they treated her with great attention, and received the same task as me. But surprisingly, she did not do it, although they had a high opinion of her after the face-to-face interview. What salary should I give to a newbie? 40-60. Keep in mind that over 60 you can get a good rip off if you are still a junior and have no experience. Be prepared to know the size of an int, tree traversal, a couple of common logic problems - but I must admit, I didn’t get these at my interviews. If you think that you know java core well, then don’t be fooled. There’s a lot of stuff out there, I still get slapped on the fingers from my colleagues for using something extinct. Good luck to all! but also an irreplaceable part of the team. All bugs are via Jira. Knowledge base - in wiki. The manager is the former team leader of the same team - i.e. knows how and what to pay for it. The main project is a document management system. If it itself may not be interesting, but from the point of view of implementation - mmm, there is so much, try to cover it. At the time of the device, half the team was using eclipse, the rest were using IDEA. Now all but one are on IDEA. At first I used an “alternative” license for IDEA, six months later I bought the official one - after all, the guys there are just like me, they make an excellent product and want to eat. A year and a half has passed, I’ve gotten the hang of it, but tasks are still difficult for me - but I’m already very familiar with code. This used to be a major issue, as was business logic. And then I decided to go for more interviews, prompted by a colleague who had already left for a month. Well, it never hurts to see how much they are willing to pay for me. I opened hh - at first I set it to 50, but when there were too many responses, I set it to 110k. Plus the stack has become a little wider. I have attended 10 interviews since the end of June. Received 2 offers. One is 50, the second is 110. And even 110 is not the most difficult questions and tasks (by the way, a lot of places work on the Hibirnate+Spring combination (often in Angular)). Not everything is as bad as it turned out. I am needed, I will not go hungry. We can move on. As for myself, I’m a little over 30 and, as I wrote, I have a non-core education. Therefore, I had a lot of doubts. Yes, they still exist. But something is already happening. And I’m writing this not for myself, and not for all of you, but for that insecure dude who still thinks that he won’t succeed - hey you, yes YOU, you will succeed, for sure, face a brick and work, work . We are still recruiting for our team, and colleagues often go to interview guys like this one. One girl was again from Javarash, my colleagues knew that I also passed it (well, I passed it - up to level 24), they treated her with great attention, and received the same task as me. But surprisingly, she did not do it, although they had a high opinion of her after the face-to-face interview. What salary should I give to a newbie? 40-60. Keep in mind that over 60 you can get a good rip off if you are still a junior and have no experience. Be prepared to know the size of an int, tree traversal, a couple of common logic problems - but I must admit, I didn’t get these at my interviews. If you think that you know java core well, then don’t be fooled. There’s a lot of stuff out there, I still get slapped on the fingers from my colleagues for using something extinct. Good luck to all! At first I used an “alternative” license for IDEA, six months later I bought the official one - after all, the guys there are just like me, they make an excellent product and want to eat. A year and a half has passed, I’ve gotten the hang of it, but tasks are still difficult for me - but I’m already very familiar with code. This used to be a major issue, as was business logic. And then I decided to go for more interviews, prompted by a colleague who had already left for a month. Well, it never hurts to see how much they are willing to pay for me. I opened hh - at first I set it to 50, but when there were too many responses, I set it to 110k. Plus the stack has become a little wider. I have attended 10 interviews since the end of June. Received 2 offers. One is 50, the second is 110. And even 110 is not the most difficult questions and tasks (by the way, a lot of places work on the Hibirnate+Spring combination (often in Angular)). Not everything is as bad as it turned out. I am needed, I will not go hungry. We can move on. As for myself, I’m a little over 30 and, as I wrote, I have a non-core education. Therefore, I had a lot of doubts. Yes, they still exist. But something is already happening. And I’m writing this not for myself, and not for all of you, but for that insecure dude who still thinks that he won’t succeed - hey you, yes YOU, you will succeed, for sure, face a brick and work, work . We are still recruiting for our team, and colleagues often go to interview guys like this one. One girl was again from Javarash, my colleagues, knowing that I also passed it (well, how I passed it - up to level 24), treated her with great attention, and received the same task as me. But surprisingly, she did not do it, although they had a high opinion of her after the face-to-face interview. What salary should I give to a newbie? 40-60. Keep in mind that over 60 you can get a good rip off if you are still a junior and have no experience. Be prepared to know the size of an int, tree traversal, a couple of common logic problems - but I must admit, I didn’t receive any of these in my interviews. If you think that you know java core well, then don’t be fooled. There’s a lot of stuff there, I still get slapped on the fingers from my colleagues for using something extinct. Good luck to all! At first I used an “alternative” license for IDEA, six months later I bought the official one - after all, the guys there are just like me, they make an excellent product and want to eat. A year and a half has passed, I’ve gotten the hang of it, but tasks are still difficult for me - but I’m already very familiar with code. This used to be a major issue, as was business logic. And then I decided to go for more interviews, prompted by a colleague who had already left for a month. Well, it never hurts to see how much they are willing to pay for me. I opened hh - at first I set it to 50, but when there were too many responses, I set it to 110k. Plus the stack has become a little wider. I have attended 10 interviews since the end of June. Received 2 offers. One is 50, the second is 110. And even 110 is not the most difficult questions and tasks (by the way, a lot of places work on the Hibirnate+Spring combination (often in Angular)). Not everything is as bad as it turned out. I am needed, I will not go hungry. We can move on. As for myself, I’m a little over 30 and, as I wrote, I have a non-core education. Therefore, I had a lot of doubts. Yes, they still exist. But something is already happening. And I’m writing this not for myself, and not for all of you, but for that insecure dude who still thinks that he won’t succeed - hey you, yes YOU, you will succeed, for sure, face a brick and work, work . We are still recruiting for our team, and colleagues often go to interview guys like this one. One girl was again from Javarash, my colleagues knew that I also passed it (well, I passed it - up to level 24), they treated her with great attention, and received the same task as me. But surprisingly, she did not do it, although they had a high opinion of her after the face-to-face interview. What salary should I give to a newbie? 40-60. Keep in mind that over 60 you can get a good rip off if you are still a junior and have no experience. Be prepared to know the size of an int, tree traversal, a couple of common logic problems - but I must admit, I didn’t get these at my interviews. If you think that you know java core well, then don’t be fooled. There’s a lot of stuff out there, I still get slapped on the fingers from my colleagues for using something extinct. Good luck to all! We can move on. As for myself, I’m a little over 30 and, as I wrote, I have a non-core education. Therefore, I had a lot of doubts. Yes, they still exist. But something is already happening. And I’m writing this not for myself, and not for all of you, but for that insecure dude who still thinks that he won’t succeed - hey you, yes YOU, you will succeed, for sure, face a brick and work, work . We are still recruiting for our team, and colleagues often go to interview guys like this one. One girl was again from Javarash, my colleagues knew that I also passed it (well, I passed it - up to level 24), they treated her with great attention, and received the same task as me. But surprisingly, she did not do it, although they had a high opinion of her after the face-to-face interview. What salary should I give to a newbie? 40-60. Keep in mind that over 60 you can get a good rip off if you are still a junior and have no experience. Be prepared to know the size of an int, tree traversal, a couple of common logic problems - but I must admit, I didn’t get these at my interviews. If you think that you know java core well, then don’t be fooled. There’s a lot of stuff out there, I still get slapped on the fingers from my colleagues for using something extinct. Good luck to all! We can move on. As for myself, I’m a little over 30 and, as I wrote, I have a non-core education. Therefore, I had a lot of doubts. Yes, they still exist. But something is already happening. And I’m writing this not for myself, and not for all of you, but for that insecure dude who still thinks that he won’t succeed - hey you, yes YOU, you will succeed, for sure, face a brick and work, work . We are still recruiting for our team, and colleagues often go to interview guys like this one. One girl was again from Javarash, my colleagues, knowing that I also passed it (well, how I passed it - up to level 24), treated her with great attention, and received the same task as me. But surprisingly, she did not do it, although they had a high opinion of her after the face-to-face interview. What salary should I give to a newbie? 40-60. Keep in mind that over 60 you can get a good rip off if you are still a junior and have no experience. Be prepared to know the size of an int, tree traversal, a couple of common logic problems - but I must admit, I didn’t receive any of these in my interviews. If you think that you know java core well, then don’t be fooled. There’s a lot of stuff there, I still get slapped on the fingers from my colleagues for using something extinct. Good luck to all!
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